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Eng. IV Assignments, information
Frankenstein
APE IV due dates, assignments, etc.
Mar. 28 Movie, Gattica or (my choice-- Mary Shelley bio) Begin Frankenstein April 1-Blog April 2 Chapters 1-4, Frankenstein April 3 Chapter 5 and essays in class April 7 Through Chapter 7 April 9 Through Vol II, Chap. I & II April 21 Through Chap. III of VOLUME III Extra credit for your own copy! In-class writing MC practice
APE III due dates and assignments
Arg. Against Nat'l ID Cards, Ques. 3 p. 616, TIA Mar. 24 MC Practice, 5 Steps, p. 247 Mar. 28 Arg. Paper Peer Reviews April 1 April 2-Begin The Things They Carried ACT Prep Course April 4 FINAL DRAFT ARG. PAPER APRIL 7 MAP TESTING April 8-10 TTTC through p 38 April 11 TTTC through p 61 by April 14 APE III TEST MAY 14 Final Book review May
Absolution exists--I believe it can be achieved, but in this particular novel I think not. Victor and Harold passed way beyond the realm of possible absolution. They should have their own circle of hell just for them--right beyond Kafka's circle--where Harold and Victor continually chase each other around and around and take turns torturing one another. It'd be like the novel, except never-ending and therefore the ultimate form of torture.
did his life ever have a meaning?? i mean he was alone the entire time and couldnt socialize with anyone...what kind of life is that anyway? and didnt he want to kill himself once before or am i just crazy??
I believe that it's possible to achieve absolution, but you have to be willing to live your life forevermore by what's right. The torture they put each other through can never be undone, but they should be able to move on and do some good with their lives. I think it's horribly tragic that they locked themselves in a vicious circle of guilt and hatred instead of trying to move past the hurt and grief and into something holy.
That is what makes me heartsick for the Creature--the only way he can get a human to interact eith him is to issue threats. Like anyone else, he is seeking validation for his existance and saying to his creator , "Look at me! Tell me I am worthy of some recognition--even if it is negative. Now, he is weeping over his father's corpse--don't you think he is grieving?
Without a companion, "Harold" saw his existence as meaningless and dull, so he spends his time tormenting the only person who can change this. He won't kill Victor (at least not intentionally) because being his creator, if he dies, then no more matey! Victor on the other hand is determined to rid the earth of his evil creation and will stop at nothing (except death) to carry out his task and do what he thinks is necessary.
The thing about absolution, in my mind, is that you have to try to redeem yourself. What did Victor or Harold ever do to amend for all of the evil that they had cause? Nothing! Victor got his whole family killed! And Harold did it! Then, afterwards, they played a rest-of-their-lives-long game of hide and go seek. How did that redeem them for anything?
for once i agree with somebody else beside courtney, puckett. they were both to busy making sure the other the others life was hell that they really didnt take/have the time to do much else. maybe if they had dealt with their freaking problems instead of whined about them the entire book things might have turned out differently. so no, there was no chance of absolution.
Umm... Mrs. Calkin.... Harold is a sociopath, not a mass murderer. Harold had no reason to kill anyone on the ship. His reason for killing in the first place was in response to Victor. But Victor died. Harold didn't kill for recreation.
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In Twilight, Edward struggles with this question repeatedly. In a word, yes. Absolution is possible--even for "eternally damned" vampires.
But for Victor or Harld, probably not.
Wait a minute--what about Harold's response to his creator's death?
yes, Harold killed himself because his creator was gone...
...but i think he did it because he realized his life lost what little meaning it had
i should expand on that last comment...
he made it his purpose to make Victor suffer and, eventually, die. Once Victor was out of the picture, he didn't have a reason to live anymore
Absolution exists--I believe it can be achieved, but in this particular novel I think not. Victor and Harold passed way beyond the realm of possible absolution. They should have their own circle of hell just for them--right beyond Kafka's circle--where Harold and Victor continually chase each other around and around and take turns torturing one another. It'd be like the novel, except never-ending and therefore the ultimate form of torture.
did his life ever have a meaning?? i mean he was alone the entire time and couldnt socialize with anyone...what kind of life is that anyway? and didnt he want to kill himself once before or am i just crazy??
I believe that it's possible to achieve absolution, but you have to be willing to live your life forevermore by what's right. The torture they put each other through can never be undone, but they should be able to move on and do some good with their lives. I think it's horribly tragic that they locked themselves in a vicious circle of guilt and hatred instead of trying to move past the hurt and grief and into something holy.
i don't think Harold or victor could find meaning in anything...thats why they both destroyed themselves/each other.
That is what makes me heartsick for the Creature--the only way he can get a human to interact eith him is to issue threats. Like anyone else, he is seeking validation for his existance and saying to his creator , "Look at me! Tell me I am worthy of some recognition--even if it is negative. Now, he is weeping over his father's corpse--don't you think he is grieving?
Without a companion, "Harold" saw his existence as meaningless and dull, so he spends his time tormenting the only person who can change this. He won't kill Victor (at least not intentionally) because being his creator, if he dies, then no more matey! Victor on the other hand is determined to rid the earth of his evil creation and will stop at nothing (except death) to carry out his task and do what he thinks is necessary.
The thing about absolution, in my mind, is that you have to try to redeem yourself. What did Victor or Harold ever do to amend for all of the evil that they had cause? Nothing! Victor got his whole family killed! And Harold did it! Then, afterwards, they played a rest-of-their-lives-long game of hide and go seek. How did that redeem them for anything?
for once i agree with somebody else beside courtney, puckett. they were both to busy making sure the other the others life was hell that they really didnt take/have the time to do much else. maybe if they had dealt with their freaking problems instead of whined about them the entire book things might have turned out differently. so no, there was no chance of absolution.
I agree Ali. The worst game of hide-and-seek (which is generally a good game, but they somehow managed to ruin it) ever.
The creature immolated himself...and we know he can feel pain. What was that? He could have easily taken Walton, his ship, and his little dog, too.
Umm... Mrs. Calkin.... Harold is a sociopath, not a mass murderer. Harold had no reason to kill anyone on the ship. His reason for killing in the first place was in response to Victor. But Victor died. Harold didn't kill for recreation.
yes he killed himself, but i think it was bc his life lost all meaning...
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