Friday, April 11, 2008
Rat Kiley's Stories
To those of you that have read pretty far, do you think that Rat Kiley's story about Mossie's girlfirend Marry Anne is true. If it is, do you think that Mary Anne's fast transformation is just demonstrative of the general change that all young soldiers go through, or do you think she is different?
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I'm pretty sure that it was implied that it was sort of a normal thing--that all the soliders lost themselves to "Nam." But what makes Mary's story special is that she was a woman. O'Brien makes a big deal about that.
I agree. I think it also shows how stereotypical men can be. they say war is no place for a woman, but it seems that from the story Mary Anne became more accustomed to war faster than any of the men. She wasn't drafted because she was a woman, but over time she was sucked into it and eventually became a part of it. It proves that there are some things women are better than men at, even in their own territory.
O'Brian says that the true stories are the unbelievable ones. That is why I think that this story is true. It seems so strange for a woman to go to Vietnam to visit her man and within a few weeks become one of the special operations people.
Also, I agree with r3dh3ad. Though it has been said for many years that war is no place for women, Mary proved that there are times when women may be better suited for the job than men.
Mary anne went kind of crazy and went off the deep end. she started hanging out with the green berets and when Mossie finally got up enough courage to go find her she was in a room with a bunch of dead animals and bones. i find this weird but, i guess the green berets were just so bad-a, they yearned for death and wanted it around them all the time. that is why they had the stench of the dead animals radiating into their nostrils and making them happya nd appeasing their blood lust...
I dont think the story of Mary Anne was actually true. I think maybe the story of her was going around during Vietnam but it seems very unlikely that it happened. Its to far fetched. they way she flies over in cargo planes and then gets "sucked in" by the war. I think the only reason that O'Brien put this in the book was to show how the young innocent soilders were being taken in by the war. He felt the best way he could show this was by taking it to the extreme. Taking the most innocent thing, a young pretty 17 year old girl, and turning her into the most extreme example of the war, the Green Berets.
i dont think that they are true because at the beginning of the chapter it states that Rat Kiley is known for exaggerating and are often built up to keep the story exciting. mary annes story is pretty far fetched, but then again the book said that the war stories that sound riduclous are often the true ones so i dont know what to believe. But i think that her transformation is what the soliders go through, but i think the soliders transformation is a little more settle than Mary Anne's.
I think that some of the story is true, but like every story...a little exxagerated. I agree that she seemed to adapt to the war life faster then the men. Instead of shrinking away from it though she conquered it. She wasn't scared of anything, including death. I think that that is a problem that some men had, they were scared to die and therefore couldn't handle the whole "war" thing. The fact that she is women is important and she probably did go crazy in the end, but with a boyfriend like that, I probably would too.
I think that it was true because it is so unbelievable and i also think that her case is different. Ofcourse everybody goes through changes becasue of the war, but i do no think that the changes are so dramatic that you are not even yourself anymore. Marry Ann became a completely different person than what she was before and i just do not think that that was a usual case with the soldiers.
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